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Roberto dijo...

Hola. Muy interesante y en el fondo late ese deseo que tenemos algunos de que por fin alguien "cante". Solo decirte también que Goku, el número 17, es Mancebo. Es el nombre de su perro.

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Hola Masten. En este enlace se habla de Mancebo como el número 17 y cuando después desmadejadamente se van poniendo las listas con números, se dice 17-Goku. También en las fotos de documentos que colgó El País (esas de fondo azul, no tengo ahora ningún enlace), se identifica el número 17 como Goku.

http://www.cadenaser.com/articulo/deportes/Ciclismo/Operacion/Puerto/Informe/Guardia/Civil/Capitulo/III/csrcsrpor/20060714csrcsrdep_9/Tes/

Lo que sí que es verdad es que no conozco ningún documento oficial donde se diga que el perro sea llame Goku. pero lo mismo que en el caso de Birillo, que el alias no se asocia a su perro, sino por las escuchas telefónicas.

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La verdad Roberto es que lo habia leido, pero no me queda nada clara la relacion. El texto es muy ambiguo:

"De esta forma en el caso del número 17, se localiza la carpeta nº 20 del registro del domicilio de Ignacio LABARTA con la anotación en la portada de "PACO 2004- 2005- 06" localizándose en su interior el reseñado como 20.2.12 con el título "Informe Prueba Esfuerzo MANCEBO" en el que se identifica de forma expresa Francisco MANCEBO PÉREZ (AG2R).

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Se encuentra una carpeta con el número 20, pero no entiendo el porque esa carpeta tiene relación con el número 17. De momento me quedo con la duda, porque a esto se une que a los Saunier los lleva Maynard.

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Mmmm yo creo que ese comentario relacionarlo con que Marchante sea "Gokuh" es un poco sacar las castañas del fuego no? pero la verdad es que cualquiera de los buenos corredores españoles como él puede estar ahi en el ajo... aunque personalmente relacionaria a este "Gokuh" con un ciclista cuyo nombre se ha vinculado recientemente a la OP y viene usando desde siempre un look que guarda algo de simil con ese tan caracteristico pelo del personaje de anime japonés, Luca Paolini...

Por cierto tengo un par de dudas que me gustaria que me intentaras resolver, la primera el porqué guardaban la sangre de corredores retirados e incluso fallecidos como Pantani, y otros que e un par de años no la iban a poder utilizar como Perez o Hamilton.

La segunda, en su día se vinculó a Leipheimer con visitas a determinada clínica española, sabes algo al respecto? y además, creo pero esto ya la verdad qe no tengo base alguna, se dijeron cosas de Menchov, idem, sabes algo?

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En lo de Marchante me sigo reafirmando. Las declaraciones son de un mes y medio antes de que estallara la OP. Demasiada casualidad.

La sangre de Pantani no recuerdo si la tenian guardada. La sangre de los otros dos está en un arcón congelador del 2004 (el mismo arcón donde está la sangre de Valverde). ¿El porqué la guardan? Ni idea, pero en el arcón de 2004 estaba la sangre de ambos (que justo fue el año que los sancionaron). Me imagino que no se podrá deshacer de esa sangre tan facilmente, no lo se, o la necesitaría para más adelante.

Leipheimer es del clan de Girona. Ellos sabrán la que tienen montada allí y con quien, pero infinidad de corredores nortemaricanos tiene allí fijada su residencia (el mismo Armstrong la tenia cuando competía). Landis, Zabriskie, Leipheimer, Vandevelde, y asi con todos los que quieras. Incluso hay algun que otro no norteamericano por allí, como puede ser Hushovd. También me comentaron que en invierno Contador dejaba mucho Madrid para ir a entrenarse a Girona. Tendré que investigarlo. Los Discovery suelen ser casi todos del clan de Girona. Heras lo era antes de pasar a manos de Fuentes cuando fichó por Liberty. La crono que se marcó Leipheimer el año pasado en el Tour fue escandalosa, fruto de una transfusión de sangre mal aceptada por su cuerpo. Pocos días después casi gana la etapa de Pla de Beret. Y eso que su especialidad es la crono!

De Menchov no se nada significativo, lo siento.

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Una duda Javi, aparte de Cecchini, Eufemiano tenia mas "colaboradores" en otros paises?

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una duda Javi, el Urco que sale es con C o con K, si es con C es el can negro de la leyenda gallega, entonces si que me parecería acertado sospechar de Pereiro, pero si es con K, creo que es el monte que hay al lado de Eibar, creo que entonces la cosa cambiaria

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@Valen: a tanto no llego, lo siento

@migui: buen apunte. En el sumario aparece Urko con K. Pero en este documento aparece con C. Me fio de momento más del documento. Pero intetare investigar algo mas. Gracias por el apunte

Gracias a los dos por participar.

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